Jai: Grandma, I can
eat and sleep and think and talk and
walk and run and work and study. How
does my body know how to do all this?
whole world, including our body, is
made of five basic elements or matter.
These elements are: earth, water, fire,
air, and ether or an invisible element.
We have eleven senses: five sense organs
(nose, tongue, eye, skin, and ear);
five organs of action (mouth, hand,
leg, anus, and urethra); and a mind.
We smell through our nose, taste through
our tongue, see through the eyes, feel
touch through skin, and hear through
our ears. We also have a sense of feeling
by which we feel pain and pleasure.
All these give our body what it needs
to work. (Gita 13.05-06) The Spirit
or Atma inside our bodies is also called
Prana. It supplies power to the body
to do all work. When Prana leaves the
body, we are dead.
Jai: You said God
is the creator of the universe. How
do we know there is a creator or God?
There has to be a creator behind any
creation, Jai. Somebody or some power
made the car we drive and the house
we live in. Somebody or some power created
the sun, the earth, the moon and the
stars. We call that person or power
God or the creator of this universe.
Jai: If everything
has a creator, then who created God?
This is a very good question, Jai, but
there is no answer. God has always existed
and will always exist. God is the origin
of everything, but God has no origin.
Good Lord is the source of everything,
but He or She has no source!
Jai: Then, what is
God like, Grandma? Can you describe
It is impossible to describe God directly.
The Supreme Being can only be described
by parables, and in no other way. His
hands, feet, eyes, head, mouth, and
ears are everywhere. He can see, feel,
and enjoy without any physical sense
organs. He does not have a body like
us. His body and senses are out of this
world. He walks without legs, hears
without ears, does all works without
hands, smells without a nose, sees without
eyes, speaks without a mouth, and enjoys
all tastes without a tongue. His actions
are wonderful. His greatness is beyond
description. God is present everywhere
at all times, so He is very near (living
in our heart) as well as far away in
His Supreme Abode. He is the creator
(Brahma), the sustainer (Vishnu) and
the destroyer (Shiva), all in one. (Gita
The best way to illustrate
why no one can describe God (Gita 13.12-18)
is the story of the salt doll.
16. The Salt Doll
Once a salt doll went to measure the
depth of the ocean so it could tell
others how deep the ocean was. But every
time it got into the water, it melted.
Now, no one could report the ocean’s
depth. That’s how impossible it
is for anyone to describe God. Whenever
we try, we melt into the big, mysterious
ocean of His reality.
We can’t describe Brahma. In
a trance we can know Brahma, but in
trance reasoning and intellect stop
altogether. This means one does not
retain the memory of experiences in
trance (Samadhi). One who knows Brahma
becomes Brahma-like (Gita 18.55) and
does not talk, just as the salt doll
melted into the ocean and could not
report the ocean’s depth. Those
who talk about God have no real experience.
Thus, Brahma can only be experienced
Jai: Then how can
we know and understand God?
You can’t know God by mind and
intellect. He can be known only by faith
and belief. He can also be known by
Self-knowledge. One and the same God
lives in the body of all beings as spirit
and supports us. That is why we must
not hurt anybody and must treat everybody
equally. (Gita 13.28) Hurting anybody
is like hurting your own Atma. The spirit
in the body is the witness, the guide,
the supporter, the enjoyer, and the
controller of all events. (Gita 13.22)
Jai: What is the
difference between the creator and His
From a non-dualistic point of view,
there is no difference between the two.
The difference between the creator and
creation is like the difference between
the sun and the sun’s rays. Those
who have Self-knowledge truly understand
the difference between the creator and
the creation and become God-realized.
(Gita 13.34) The entire universe is
His expansion, and everything is nothing
but Him. God is both creator and the
creation, the protector and the protected,
the destroyer and the destroyed. He
is within us, outside us, near, far,
If God’s blessing comes
to you, He will let you know who you
really are and what your real nature
Here is a story how Supreme
Soul becomes individual soul (Jiva),
forgets its real nature and tries to
finds out its real nature. (Gita 13.21)
17. The Vegetarian
Once a tigress attacked a herd of sheep.
She was pregnant and very weak. As she
sprang on her prey, she gave birth to
a baby tiger and died within a couple
of hours. The baby tiger grew up in
the company of the lambs. The lambs
ate grass, so the baby tiger followed
their example. When they made sounds,
the baby tiger also made sounds like
a sheep. Gradually it grew to be a big
tiger. One day another tiger attacked
the same herd of sheep. The tiger was
surprised to see a grass-eating tiger
in the herd. Running after it, the wild
tiger at last grabbed the cub, and the
grass-eating cub began to make sounds
like a sheep.
The wild tiger dragged it to the water
and said: “Look at your face in
the water. It is just like mine. Here
is a little meat. Eat it.”
Saying this, the wild tiger put some
meat into the vegetarian tiger’s
mouth. But the vegetarian tiger would
not take it and began to make the sound
of a sheep again. Gradually, however,
it got the taste for blood and began
to like the meat.
Then the wild tiger said: “Now
you see, there is no difference between
you and me. Come along and follow me
into the forest. ”
We have been thinking that
we are this body which is limited in
time and space. We are not this body.
We are the all-powerful Spirit in the
Chapter 13 summary:
Our body is like a miniature universe.
It is made up of five basic elements
and powered by the Spirit. Any creation
must have a creator or some creative
power behind it. We call that power
by various names such as Krishna, Shiva,
Mother, Father, Ishvara, Allah, God,
Jehova, etc. God cannot be known, seen,
described, or understood by a human
mind. The creator Himself has become
the creation like the cotton has become
the thread, the cloth, and the dress.